Questions about 'Predator' technology... ?

[xenomorph90]

'Predator'  was cool...well it goes without saying.
But, as you have seen in AvP and AvP:R a 'predator' views the 'alien' with the help of a different 'vision' since the aliens body temperature is equal to the ambient temperature.
The question is - when 'Dutch' covered in the clayey-mud could fight the predator without being spotted...why didn't the predator use the same 'vision' it uses to spot an 'alien'.

Got any answers??? 

[Neltharion]

First things first, its advisible to not have random capital letters in a Thread Title, makes you seem more like an idiot with some silly questions than a person with a genuine query.


The reason was the mud was blocking the temperature of Dutch from getting to the Predators enhanced Infra-Red vision mode.

Even though in practice this doesn't happen. The Predator makes a logical assumption that Dutch has fucked off or is hiding. Hence blowing up the rat.

Also, we can assume it wasn't hunting aliens so there would be no need to switch to an "Alien" vision mode.

[xenomorph90]

Ok....sorry about the title...i'm just new here.

[Neltharion]

No worries, just a friendly heads up.

[Hieronymus]

What's wrong with the title?  The first word started with a capital, and "Predator" was capitalized as a proper noun.  Same conventions I follow.  Unless it was altered...

We know that Predators rely on heat vision when hunting humans.  We don't know exactly what Predators "see" in when hunting aliens.  It might not even be light; it might be something more akin to EM flux picked up from their nervous systems.  I'd have to review AVP and AVPR again to be sure, but I don't recall whether humans show up on that vision mode, and to what extent they are discernible from their surroundings.  That vision mode may have been useless for hunting Arnold, even if infrared vision couldn't detect him through his mud camouflage.

Also, the first Predator seemed something of a minimalist compared to all of the later Predators.  He went hunting with just wrist-blades and a shoulder cannon, whereas every Predator afterward had more and more elaborate gear.  The first Predator may have been using a very basic mask with only one vision mode.

[Hubbs]

or it could be in the original film they just had'nt thought of those ideas for the predator haha

i wouldnt call his vision modes 'alien' vision modes, they are just different modes for different light,heat sources mainly, im sure he can use them for different senarios like radioactive backgrounds, other harsh chemical enviroments, extreme heat and cold, different planetary atmosphere's etc... there not specifically for alien hunting i would say..maybe wrong.

if they had thought of the different vision modes for the original film im sure the pred would have seen arnie in the mud, the visions displayed in pred 2 would have picked him up seeing as they seem to have a good few including x-ray (avp)...impressive. The pred could of picked his eyes up arnie had them open and the x-ray could of seen his skeleton or anatomy against the foilage.

he didnt blow up a rat, he fired at the mammal (possum,racoon,otter whatever) and missed it, silly predator hehe

[xenomorph90]

 

Posted by: Hieronymus
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What's wrong with the title?  The first word started with a capital, and "Predator" was capitalized as a proper noun.  Same conventions I follow.  Unless it was altered...

I didn't know the conventions at first - so i changed it on Neltharion's saying. Now it's right.

Yeah, perhaps - he had just the basic gear. As for in 'Predator 2', he did have a secondary vision mode...dunno a lot about it cause' it's been almost five years since i last watched it.
Also, maybe they didn't know that the whole thing might turn into an AvP thing. lol

[Thedus]

We know that Predators rely on heat vision when hunting humans.  We don't know exactly what Predators "see" in when hunting aliens.  It might not even be light; it might be something more akin to EM flux picked up from their nervous systems.  I'd have to review AVP and AVPR again to be sure, but I don't recall whether humans show up on that vision mode, and to what extent they are discernible from their surroundings.  That vision mode may have been useless for hunting Arnold, even if infrared vision couldn't detect him through his mud camouflage.

I've always assumed that the 'alien mode' was merely an enhanced method of detecting bio-electric output - as you suggested.  Humans are visible in this mode, but only slightly.  If you watch the alternate opening to AVP the human is seen faintly compared to the alien.  This may suggest that aliens put out a great deal more bio-electric energy than humans... which may further emphasize the idea that the aliens are essentially living batteries, and using their circulatory fluids much in the way batteries use corrosive materials to conduct current.

Also, the first Predator seemed something of a minimalist compared to all of the later Predators.  He went hunting with just wrist-blades and a shoulder cannon, whereas every Predator afterward had more and more elaborate gear.  The first Predator may have been using a very basic mask with only one vision mode.

He also had the darts that Danny found in Predator 2.  If you watch the scene where Blain is shot he's first hit with a fast moving small metallic object... presumably a dart.

This predator did seem to be roughing it.  He may have only had one vision mode available to make the hunt more of a challenge.  Or he could have been inexperienced, and forgot about using it.

[BLAIN]

I've always assumed that the 'alien mode' was merely an enhanced method of detecting bio-electric output - as you suggested.  Humans are visible in this mode, but only slightly.  If you watch the alternate opening to AVP the human is seen faintly compared to the alien.  This may suggest that aliens put out a great deal more bio-electric energy than humans... which may further emphasize the idea that the aliens are essentially living batteries, and using their circulatory fluids much in the way batteries use corrosive materials to conduct current.

I've been thinking of this for my Predator Study, and the scene below seems to agree with the bioelectricity theory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgZiRbEtPZg
see 4:50 onward

The alien is very green, with the predator still having some output after just dying...