Why neither AVP nor AVP-R are scary at all...

[severen76]

I think they're from the games. I've read the AvP comics and some of the Alien ones, and I don't remember it being mentioned.

It could be from the Extinction game?

[SM]

Yeah I think so.  Think they popped up in one of the AvP games too.

Thing is the EU can't seem to decide whether they're Aliens that guard the Queen, or young Queens (or both?)

[Pandorag]

The Predators added in a hormone that made her breed faster, so the hunt could begin more quickly.

Finding reasons for all the things wrong in an AVP movie and declaring them facts in your head does not make them facts.

The PredAlien was implanting embryos so that it could have more helping hands in the creation of the hive, Chet was a Praetorian you know?

Chet was a dumbass and failed at being an Alien.

edit: Funny I got demerited for this. I should try being meaner.

[Pred Killer]

Finding reasons for all the things wrong in an AVP movie and declaring them facts in your head does not make them facts.

I never said they were facts, did I?

Chet was a dumbass and failed at being an Alien.

How do you fail at being something that you are? That is like saying you fail at being a human being, it's impossible.

[severen76]

You presented them as facts though.

The PredAlien was implanting embryos so that it could have more helping hands in the creation of the hive, Chet was a Praetorian you know?

[Pred Killer]

You presented them as facts though.

Some of them are facts, they said she was a Young Queen. Young Queen = Praetorian... you know?

[severen76]

And didn't they come up with most their reasoning after the film come out?

[Pred Killer]

And didn't they come up with most their reasoning after the film come out?

No not that I'm aware...

[Sebastian]

Some of them are facts, they said she was a Young Queen. Young Queen = Praetorian... you know?

WROOONG

[Pandorag]

I never said they were facts, did I?

How do you fail at being something that you are? That is like saying you fail at being a human being, it's impossible.

Many humans fail at being human.

From memory and from the books, Praetorians were the queen's guards. I think the ones we see in the hive in Aliens are supposed to be guards, and again, if I remember well, they are described as such in the novelization.

Saying the Predators gave hormones to the queen in AVP feels like finding an excuse as to why the director fucked up the alien life cycle and therefore forgiving him for it.

I still watch the movies regularly btw, even AVP:R.

[Pred Killer]

Many humans fail at being human.

So... you're saying they're aliens (extraterrestrials)?

Saying the Predators gave hormones to the queen in AVP feels like finding an excuse as to why the director fucked up the alien life cycle and therefore forgiving him for it.

It only makes sense. They yautja sped it up to get down there as quickly as possible and to get it over with, why wait?

I still watch the movies regularly btw, even AVP:R.

Even though you hate it? Makes no goddamn sense!

[Pandorag]

Even though you hate it? Makes no goddamn sense!

Show me where I said I hate the movies?

It only makes sense. They yautja sped it up to get down there as quickly as possible and to get it over with, why wait?

Making sense doesn't make it so, and making sense to you, doesn't make it so either.

[SM]

Some of them are facts, they said she was a Young Queen. Young Queen = Praetorian... you know?

From the Earth War and Genocide comics, the royal guards aka Praetorians didn't become Queens.  They nurtured replacement Queens.

[CompanyMan]

Even though you hate it? Makes no goddamn sense!

Picking on the wrong philly son.

[darthmaul1]

If they use my idea for AVP3 it would explain the gestation time decrease
I had posted this on another forum, but take a look.

AVP3 needs a good writer and director to redem the franchise.
Shane Black to direct and or write, Nicholas Meyer to direct someone who knows what they are doing.

Here is my idea which need some tweeking but i think it is good rough draft
I had watched AVP-R with the commentary and heard that they tried to get I am assuming Adam Baldwin to reprise his role of Garber. Not sure why he wouldn’t do it, maybe it wasn’t a big enough part for him I don’t know. For AVP 3 it would be great to get Adam Baldwin to reprise his role from Predator 2 and play Garber along with Robert Joy as Col. Stevens, and Ms. Yutani from AVP-R. 

It should start about a six months to a year after AVP-R, but it will have the company of now Weyland-Yutani Corp. back in Gunnison, Colorado examining the landing pod in the lake that the predator used in AVP-R then transporting it back to a research facility. Then you can show another team in Antarctica getting the frozen Alien Queen out of the water. Once they get her out, they transport her to the same Weyland-Yutani military research facility complete with military personnel, where they took the landing pod, on a remote tropical island somewhere. They thaw her out and chain her up, in order to produce more eggs. They then maybe have military prisoners and use them as hosts for the aliens. Have to have someone comment on the notes made by Lex(AVP) that the aliens appeared in about 10 minutes, now they are taking hrs (in alien it must of been maybe 2 or 3 hours?)and the the other creatures (predators) must of been giving the queen some sort of drug to accelarate the process.
There would have to be the inevitable disaster in order to get the Aliens to start running a muck. Then we see a ship that looks like the ship that was found in the first Alien movie and seen in the extended edition of Aliens, this ship is used by the Space Jockies (the big creature in the chair in Alien) and the Predators to transport Alien eggs to other hunting grounds. While they are passing by Earth they do a scan for the heat and conflict they crave, the monitors could show some battles in Iraq and Afghanistan and then they discover that the Aliens are running a muck on the tropical Island with the Weyland-Yutani installation.
So they cloak the ship and land at a remote spot on the island. All 3 Predators leave the ship and the lone Space Jockey is left behind. Some scientists and military personnel at the facility noticed the atmospheric disturbance from the ship and see it land and with the thermal suits (Predator 2) they do a recon mission to the ship (do not go inside). They place a sophisticated homing device on the outside of the ship and return to the base. While this is going the remaining military personnel, scientists, Aliens and Predators are fighting it out on the island.
The Queen and a drone can end up escaping and on the way to the ship she lays her egg that will house a face hugger with a Queen and drone embryo(as in alien 3). She then instructs the drone and face hugger that is out of the egg to head to the ship (just as she instructed the drones in Aliens to back away from Ripley). She then turns back to fight the remaining 2 predators.
The Drone and face hugger make it to the ship where they go to the observatory with the big telescope, where the drone knocks out the Space Jockey and then it is impregnated by the face hugger. All the Aliens are killed on the island and 1 Predator remains and after he kills the queen he boards the ship to leave. (There will be NO explosion to kill everything on the island) The predator takes off in the ship and once the ship is on course he then proceeds to the observatory room where he sees the space jockey against the wall passed out. He scans the jockey and sees the queen embryo gestating inside. The same face hugger tries to impregnate the Predator (as in Alien 3 I think the final face hugger from the queen carried 2 embryos) but the Predator kills the face hugger. Then the drone emerges and a fight happens between him and the Predator. The pred gets fatally wounded and with his last breath he decapitates the drone. The drone is killed and melts a hole in the deck (Like the hole in Alien.) both corpses fall through the hole.

You could then go back to the Weyland-Yutani scientist tracking the ship, and then go back to the Space Jockey ship a few hours later when the Space Jockey comes to. He then hops into the big telescope chair and then you can show the Space Jockey convulsing with the Queen trying to get out, he uses the telescope chair to locate a planet to land / crash on, he then resets the computer to land / crash on a planet LV-426(from Alien and Aliens) He then sets the computer to issue the warning signal. at the same time when the Queen bursts out of his chest killing him the hull breach occurs and the atmosphere gets in and makes the space jocky look as if it has been fossilized, And then the Queen chestburster goes down the hole made by the drone. Once the ship comes to a stop the last thing you see is the Queen going through the ship and then the camera pulls back and you see of all the eggs that Kane saw in the first Alien movie complete with the mist and the blue barrier. This is how Weyland-Yutani Corp. knows about the ship and Alien in the first Alien movie, because it has the homing device on it. Plus it has the warning from the space jockey that mother deciphered in Alien. Cause the company obviously knows more than what they let on in the first alien movie even Ash the android new something was going to happen to Kane the way he was looking at him at the dinner table.
I think this would be a good way to meld the story lines together and once it is done if they wanted to do any more they would be free to put it on any planet during any time.