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Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« on: February 04, 2011, 09:22:56 PM »

I realise this was theorised in the 70's but I personally never heard of it until seeing a channel 5 documentary afew weeks ago in Jan. It was a physics based doc about atoms molecules and quarks mainly and how alternate dimension or realities are in fact real which they proved with an experiment using light particles.

It then came onto the holographic theory that our universe may be a hologram and a black hole contains information of everything it has swallowed on its event horizon. To be honest it lost me and I wasn't surprised seeing as the professors on the show said no one understands it lol!

http://www.whillyard.com/science-pages/holographic.html

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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 02:38:09 AM »

Thats pretty much String Theory and Quantum Gravity.

But yes, Black Holes do contain the information of everything they captured at their Event Horizon, because as they get closer to the Singularity time slows down. So if someone was captured by a Black Hole you would see them get stripped into strings very slowly as they progressed to the Singularity. If you could safely see them and not get captured yourself.

 Though if anyone ever got close enough to try and get the Information, they would be caught by the Black Hole
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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 09:44:47 PM »

There are many theories on how the Universe was created or what it really is. Some of the predominate ideas are that the Universe is really a massive computer simulation (think of The Matrix or The Sims if that helps) created by humans centuries in the future. Another idea theorizes that we are just one of many Multiverses and that our Universe was created when two other Universes "bumped together" and created the singularity we know as the Big Bang. There is another theory that the Big Bang has happened many times before and that the Universe will eventually collapse on itself in what physicists call the Big Crunch only to give way to another Big Bang that starts the cycle all over again. There are three or four other theories I can't think of right now but obviously nobody knows for sure. Figuring out what existed before the Big Bang is the Holy Grail of astrophysics because we know something can't come from nothing so what was there before the beginning. We'll probably never know.
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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 10:22:10 PM »

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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 04:40:30 AM »

Though Stephen Hawking would argue that something can come from nothing.
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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 08:26:45 AM »

But yes, Black Holes do contain the information of everything they captured at their Event Horizon, because as they get closer to the Singularity time slows down. So if someone was captured by a Black Hole you would see them get stripped into strings very slowly as they progressed to the Singularity. If you could safely see them and not get captured yourself.

I don't think this is the same thing, Nel.  For a start, any object that falls in on the same trajectory will obscure the previous objects.  Another problem is that for unobscured objects, you can only gather information about surface characteristics - other people will be able to see the box I throw in to the black hole until it's obscured, but they'll never know what's inside the box.  The most major problem is that it won't tell you about anything effectively invisible - you would never be able to know how much light the black hole has eaten, for example.
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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 09:01:14 AM »

Though Stephen Hawking would argue that something can come from nothing.

As I say, there are many theories.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 10:43:48 AM »

That's not theory.  It happens all the time, every millisecond, in every cubic millimeter of space.  It's just that "something" very quickly goes back to being "nothing" in the majority of cases.  Look up the Casimir effect.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 03:22:14 PM »

I don't think this is the same thing, Nel.  For a start, any object that falls in on the same trajectory will obscure the previous objects.  Another problem is that for unobscured objects, you can only gather information about surface characteristics - other people will be able to see the box I throw in to the black hole until it's obscured, but they'll never know what's inside the box.  The most major problem is that it won't tell you about anything effectively invisible - you would never be able to know how much light the black hole has eaten, for example.

Fair Point Deez.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 11:45:29 PM »

Are you a holographical image made by the universe? or perhaps are we all (our galaxy) inside our own black hole, the black hole of another galaxy and we are the information shimmering on its event horizon? the holographic information that everything has and cannot be destroyed  Thinks  Dance
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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2011, 12:11:02 AM »

A black hole?



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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2011, 12:43:07 AM »

Not if we are ourselves are within a black hole, are we the information??
Perhaps everything we know of in our galaxy is on the inside on a black hole, every galaxy is, in theory, suppose to have a black hole, which side of it are we on? haha
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Re: Is Our Universe Merely a Hologram?
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2011, 04:44:01 AM »

If we're in a black hole, then so's our entire visible universe, not just our galaxy. 

Regardless of which, we're information anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 05:25:28 PM »

If we are tiny particles of God's chuff cloud, then our entire universe is also in God's chuff cloud.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 09:38:39 PM »

Not if we are ourselves are within a black hole, are we the information??
Perhaps everything we know of in our galaxy is on the inside on a black hole, every galaxy is, in theory, suppose to have a black hole, which side of it are we on? haha

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