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Looks like we'll be waiting a bit for a new Predator movie. Collider: You started with Predator and I really dug the reboot you did with Robert Rodriguez. How successful was that for the studio in terms of maybe making another one?
John Davis: You know, those Predator movies…Tom Rothman said this to me, “Man, they all seem to make money.” I get a big check every year on my net points off of the original Predator. You know how hard it is to get net points on a studio movie, right? It was hugely profitable. It far exceeded its revenue on DVD than in theaters by three or four times.
Collider:You’re talking about the original, right?
Davis: Yes. I talked to Arnold about rebooting Predator and doing something in terms of that. I think in terms of right now, it needs to rest for a couple of years. I can’t see why if we can’t be clever we can’t reinvent it again.
Collider: I actually really dug it. I thought Rodriguez did a great job with it.
Davis: Yeah. It was really fun.
It was really good. That’s why as a fan I’d love to see another one.
Davis: Yeah. He changed the setting. He put it on another planet. You have to keep changing the setting. You have to find a clever way to do it. If we were going to do it with Arnold; it was like, “Does it make sense to go back and to put him with a young team?” So maybe it’s 20 years later, you have retired, and you are the one person who has survived one of these encounters. Is that a reboot in the fact that you are in it with a group of young guys? Is that a reboot? You just have to figure out a way to reboot it. Rodriguez rebooted it. It’s all in the planet. The sequel to the first one rebooted it. We should’ve had Arnold in the movie. The deal broke down over $250,000, which is a shame. But it was moved from the jungle to the city. You have to create a freshness about it. When we did Alien vs. Predator we kind of rebooted it because we put the two pieces together. You just have to give it enough time to come up with a new freshness. It is what they did so brilliantly with Fast Five.Thanks to Collider
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... Blah, blah. Blah. Sorry, but that's all I could hear with Davis's cock so far down that guys throat. Yes, for the record, I didn't "dig" Predators.
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I'm more interested in the fact that there's clearly nothing happening with the Predator franchise.
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Predators wasn't bad. I generally kind of liked it, aside from a few hiccups that I didn't care for. But over all, I have it a thumbs up. Why all the hate?
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The Predators are pussies, the planet feels just like Earth, the cast isn't as charismatic as the first film, it doesn't introduce a whole lot of new stuff, what it does is weak, the new breed of Predators suck, both from a design angle and from their retarded, dumbed down behavior, the dialogue is 90% boring drivel, the action scenes are boring, the only interesting characters get killed off quickly.
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Reboot. Reboot. Reboot.
We can't tell a continuous story. Predator is a one trick pony. Predator makes money. We want more money, but it's a one trick pony. We need to dress it up differently to flog that dead horse. We need to reimagine that dead horse so we can flog it to the public again. We need to give it a rest because we need memories to fade, so that dead horse doing that same old trick will seem fresh again. Reboot. Reimagine. Flog. Dead. Tired. Rinse and repeat.
Jesus, why not actually take the things that made Predator work so well and apply them to a new project?
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The Predators are pussies, ( They have been in every movie to date. Tricked and beat by humans, and space bugs and remedial booby traps. )
the planet feels just like Earth, ( Could always use the fake moon set they used in the 60's. Maybe, I liked the jungle planet, and they tried to make it look other worldly. )
the cast isn't as charismatic as the first film, ( I give you that one. Nothing can touch that. )
it doesn't introduce a whole lot of new stuff, ( Sure it did. Birds, dogs, Predtraps. )
what it does is weak, the new breed of Predators suck, ( Yes. I didn't care for black super much at all. I do remain loyal to a classic. )
both from a design angle and from their retarded, dumbed down behavior, ( See above. Predators historically get tooled, I wanna see one win just once. Over all win. )
the dialogue is 90% boring drivel, ( I think that is a standard anymore... if they don't keep up some manner of odd continuos dialog people are confussed as to what is going on. The characters have to explain everything anymore.. to keep you, the movie goes informed. )
the action scenes are boring, the only interesting characters get killed off quickly. ( Yeah. Danny Trejo playing himself again, was almost Best Supporting Oscar material for sure. )
Don't ask why I didn't quote each thing individually either... felt like being different.
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Come on, you can't tell me that the Predators seen in this movie aren't total pussies compared to the first two (only real, in my book) movies. Anytime and Pussyface mowed through tons of people, and were just barely beaten by Dutch and Harrigan. Anytime died because he missed something, Pussyface got his chest blasted point-blank with a shotgun half a dozen or more times, then had his forearm cut off. Those were way more tough, canny hunters than the glass-jawed mongoloids in Predators.
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I said all the Preds were pussies. Not just these three. I agree the first one was the best, and toughest.
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Jesus, why not actually take the things that made Predator work so well and apply them to a new project?
Because idiots like me love the creature and the universe it inhibits (I'm not talking about the Alien films either).
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How does it make you feel when they have to reboot that universe and that creature every time they want to make a new film?
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How does it make you feel when they have to reboot that universe and that creature every time they want to make a new film?
I wasn't being sarcastic or standoffish in anyway. I fully acknowledge the idiocy, or at least I'm condemning of being incredibly undemanding, of what I'm doing. But where else do you take the Predator?
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I said all the Preds were pussies. Not just these three. I agree the first one was the best, and toughest.
No way man, the preds from 1, 2 and wolf from Requiem are bad ass !
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Like I said twice now. The first pred = the best.
2 was A-O-K. All others have been corny and over-the-top.
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