New Prometheus still revealing two Space Jockey suits!

[BishopIII]

Just a few hours ago, a new image has popped up online, showing Noomi Rapace as Shaw, standing in a dark, biomechanical corridor, with two SJ suits stood in the background. At least, they are being interpreted as suits. As far as we know, they could simply be statues, or they could be suits, unoccupied or otherwise. There were rumours that the SJs are cooperative with the human characters up to the point that the humans steal several ampules from the 'ampule chamber'. Maybe they are occupied, and simply acting as minders or military-style guards, watching over their new charges? Or maybe it is just a kind of 'open wardrobe', with empty spacesuits awaiting occupants?




It confirms, from the details of the legs and torso, that the supine figure in the oft-published earlier image, with the large spheroid object being examined, is a dead SJ, or rather, an empty suit that has been carelessly knocked over. The spheroid would be the empty helmet, having rolled off of the suit as it fell. Presumably, the crew of the Prometheus haven't a clue about the identity of these beings at this point in the film. Although I could be dead wrong...

http://screenrant.com/prometheus-image-space-jockey-sandy-147147/

[Dan]

Pretty disappointed, really didn't want the space jockeys to look human but its looking that way now   

[BishopIII]

I felt that way about it at first, but it doesn't really bother me now. Especially when you consider the logic, that the SJs created us, therefore would have some kind of link to us in terms of general appearance. Unless you're referring to their bottom halves, I'd always assumed that they'd have a humanoid lower half, simply because the top half was so humanoid. Even Giger's xenomorph design made a certain amount of biological sense in its' design. What makes me laugh is the fact that, in this photo anyway, they look like they're wearing wellington boots! 

Either way, this pic has whet my appetite for more! Can't wait for the release date!!! 

[wmmvrrvrrmm]

I didn't want to see them with elephant trunks and bovver boots

[NERMAL]

Dr Who beasties look better on 1% of the budget.

I am disappoint.

[alieninchicago]

Worst invention since the ALIEN Queen! Just kidding.........

All joking aside. I'm still holding out hope that Ridley will really surprise us on the appearance of the Space Jockey. We already know the overall shape will be humanoid. But will the head be biomechanical or not???

I believe at Comic Con 2011, he spoke about biomechanical creatures. Was he talking about the prototype of the ALIEN or the Jockey???

Also, I don't think the grey humanoid we saw standing next to the Jockey Chair was a Space Jockey. I think that might be Holloway fully transformed. Why would Ridley give away the appearance of the Jockey so early???

Still very excited about this movie! Let's keep our fingers crossed that the Jockey's appearance is really cool!

[deezelboy]

We already know the overall shape will be humanoid.

Hey, I'm still holding out for the ooze they find to be the true form of the Space Jockeys/Engineers. They just pour themselves into the Jockey suits when the need for physical labour arises.

[alieninchicago]

Hey, I'm still holding out for the ooze they find to be the true form of the Space Jockeys/Engineers. They just pour themselves into the Jockey suits when the need for physical labour arises.

You might not be too far off with that thought! Somehow this ooze crap reminds me of the Ninja Turtles! 

[BishopIII]

I didn't want to see them with elephant trunks and bovver boots

It's a breathing tube, not an elephant trunk. I fail to see how else the tube would look on a standing SJ, after all, it needs to turn its head somehow. I remember everyone criticising the 'super-predators' seen in those leaked set pics, and how rubbish they looked, like a cheap thing put together for a fan film, and yet the finished product looked pretty good. The point I'm making is that the final appearance of those suits may surprise you. Don't write them off yet.

Dr Who beasties look better on 1% of the budget.

I am disappoint.

Based on what? One dark, fairly poor view of what has already been described as a suit. I didn't see any similar complaints about the 'corpse' laid out on the floor, or the two pics of the SJ mask, or the helmet being scanned. Most disappointment occurs when preconceived expectations (that aren't based in anything concrete) aren't met by the filmmaker, who may have different ideas. You're entitled to your opinions, I'm not arguing that, I don't want to come across as a cunt, all I'm saying is to give Riddles a chance here, I'm sure he won't disappoint!

 BTW, I'm often impressed with what they can do on Dr. Who on such a small budget! Why can't Hollywood take a leaf out of their book?

[NERMAL]

Based on the fact is is L A Z Y. Over 100 years of science fiction and imagination and they still fall back on two arms, two legs, torso and head. What is wrong with tentacles? An encephalopod foot for locomotion? 

[BishopIII]

I am well aware of the evolutionary objections to humanoid aliens, I fully believe that real aliens aren't likely to look a thing like us, although, in such a vast universe, you'd expect at least some beings to resemble us vaguely, evolutionary convergence and all that. But we already have a humanoid upper half to the SJ in Alien, very humanoid, in fact (five fingers with opposable thumb in the right place, horizontal ribs on torso, head on a neck atop the shoulders, plus the aforementioned shoulders), and there was not a single objection to that portrayal. It wouldn't make any biological sense if that didn't also translate into the lower half. Otherwise, I just keep getting horrible images in my head of Mermaids from Space! I know Giger is a surrealist, but his designs for the movie were supposed to make at least some biological sense, they have their own logic. Besides, as I, and Deez, have said already, these creatures are supposed to have created us, they have a giant humanoid head in their Ampule Chamber, these things would make us expect that they are at least somewhat like us. It's sort of a backwards logic, working back from us to them, but if it's handled right it should work. Alieninchicago may be right about the grey, bald guy, in which case the SJ may be something we haven't even expected! Although, if it did turn out to be the 'ooze' in the suits, I'd be fuming! Besides, in the pic of Fassbender lifting it out, it doesn't look like ooze to me, more like a sort of jellyfish with a biomechanical understructure, look at it again. Maybe it's an alien precursor?
 Haven't tentacles been done to death in SF too?

Edit: Another thing that works in defence of a humanoid SJ would be characterisation. It's possible that Riddles wants the audience to identify with them in some way, perhaps we are supposed to get some insight into their intentions and demeanor. It would be very difficult, if not impossible, for an audience to identify with a giant, biomechanical slug with arms. Perhaps they are meant to appear overtly amoral, or even evil, and we are supposed to be repulsed more by their similarities to our own, less-desirable traits (greed, avarice, the desire for conquest and dominion), than by their alien-ness. They share our emotions, our hatred, smugness and outgroup hostility, those things that are ultimately encoded in our DNA (though most of us manage to keep a lid on them). Sometimes it is the familiar, rather than the foreign, that is more horrific, as Giger has often shown us. 

[wmmvrrvrrmm]

It's a breathing tube, not an elephant trunk. I fail to see how else the tube would look on a standing SJ, after all, it needs to turn its head somehow. I remember everyone criticising the 'super-predators' seen in those leaked set pics, and how rubbish they looked, like a cheap thing put together for a fan film, and yet the finished product looked pretty good. The point I'm making is that the final appearance of those suits may surprise you. Don't write them off yet.

Okay, well, I made that comment having seen the photos of sculpture of the masks that managed to get out on the internet and it looks more like an elephant trunk thing. I always preferred the idea that it was a breathing tube. Visual comparisons have also been made to Gonzo The Great

[BishopIII]

I've seen those pics too, and I don't have any problem whatsoever. The 'trunk' was decomposed down to the inner structure (fluted piping) in Alien, with traces of soft tissue stuck to it. These new masks have the bioengineered flesh still on them, so they would look more like an elephant trunk. The angle that the tube exits the face is pretty much the same on both the Alien SJ, and the Prometheus one, although the latter specimen is standing, rather than sitting, so the tube would have to curve down toward the chest. This effect would be lost when sitting, with the tube being slightly straighter, as it would also if the creature were looking at its feet. Plus it would probably be somewhat retractable, to allow for head movement. I fail to see how it would look any different in a standing SJ. Also, the downturned elephantine 'bottom lip' was likely eaten away by the facehugger's acid, in order to gain access to the suits' occupant. It will only resemble Gonzo up until the head is attached to a body, breaking the illusion. Like I said, give it a chance.
 Either way, I actually think that the SJ suit in the chair is a part of the aforementioned chair. The chair rising out of the turntable in the Prometheus trailer shows something sticking up from the headrest that closely resembles the SJ helmet unfolded, take a close look.



Therefore, the standing suits are probably not the same as the chair variety, which may be a specialised variant solely for flight control purposes, like an Airman's flightsuit and helmet, that folds out when the SJ creature sits inside, encasing the pilot. This way, it could provide protection from knocks and bumps, like an all round seatbelt, plus air supply and nourishment for long journeys.

[wmmvrrvrrmm]

I fail to see how it would look any different in a standing SJ. Also, the downturned elephantine 'bottom lip' was likely eaten away by the facehugger's acid, in order to gain access to the suits' occupant. It will only resemble Gonzo up until the head is attached to a body, breaking the illusion. Like I said, give it a chance.

I really can't be bothered with anything to specifically elephant like in head appearance. As far as I'm concerned what's now a trunk like protrusion was a ribbed pipe leading into a filter box like structure. I've been bored with elephant trunks coming out of space jockeys since the first day they turned up in Dark Horse comics. The image of the fossilised looking head in the scanner doesn't make it any better for me.

[BishopIII]

Oh well, the movie was bound not to please everyone. I just take things as they come and let the quality of the film speak for itself. I also refuse to let other opinions influence my own (I loved Predators, whereas many did not), so I respect your right to do the same. It could turn out that I'll hate it, but I'll wait for it to come out first.

That said; The SJ in the chair is likely a different suit to the standing variety, so it may still resemble the ribbed pipe and filter box anyway, so your fears may be unnecessary.

On the subject, at least they aren't going with the godawful fat, double-chinned, grinning Space Jockey from the DH comics...