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Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« on: March 17, 2012, 04:07:47 AM »

The Weyland Industries site has finally added it's timeline section. While the dates are all pretty unrealistic (I don't think stem cell research was advanced enough to construct synthetic trachea's in 2004), there are some pretty nifty references to the first three Alien films, as well as a blatant contradiction that'll appease just about everyone (Except for Paul and the Strausii).

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Peter Weyland turns 14

Days after his 14th birthday, Peter Weyland is granted a Method Patent for a synthetic trachea constructed entirely of synthetically-engineered stem cells. It is his 12th registered patent to date.

October 1, 2004



Stasis Function Discovered

Weyland labs in San Francisco discover the body’s ability to hypersleep - the complete cessation of life processes, which can be restarted when stasis is removed. The search for a practical application begins.

May 20, 2028


Weyland Wins Patent Suit

After years of litigation, Weyland wins the David patent lawsuit against the Japanese start-up Yutani Corporation, effectively protecting the investments of both Weyland Industries and its shareholders.

December 12, 2029


Discovery of Archeron LV-426

Weyland astronomers discover multiple moons and a ringed planet just outside the Zeta 2 Reticula System, which are possibly able to support life. Weyland expects to travel there within the century.

May 14, 2039


Establishment of HD 85512 b

Weyland Industries awarded government contract to build and maintain HD 85512 b Class E Correctional Unit. Prisoners from Earth and other facilities are successfully relocated, and many have since been rehabilitated into society.

August 18, 2042


Lifeboat Patented

Weyland Industries earns patent number 15,999,127 for Method and Apparatus for an ejectable luxury pod able to sustain one human life for up to 50 years.

May 6, 2057


Transplanetary Peacekeeping

As Weyland Industries expands their terraforming activities and colonial endeavors, the company is approached by the US government to begin work on the formation of a colonial peacekeeping force trained or populated by marines in the event of future conflict.

November 20, 2065


There's plenty more in the link above. But see if you can spot the significance of the ones I posted?

In addition to that, another viral site, Project Prometheus has launched. But as yet login attempts net wide are unsuccessful. Maybe you can find it?
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 06:17:19 AM »

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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2012, 06:15:19 AM »

While the dates are all pretty unrealistic (I don't think stem cell research was advanced enough to construct synthetic trachea's in 2004)

Well, we managed it in 2011, but we didn't have a child genius working on it to propel us 7 years ahead of the curve.

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there are some pretty nifty references to the first three Alien films, as well as a blatant contradiction that'll appease just about everyone (Except for Paul and the Strausii).

What's that?

My thoughts on the timeline

It's a bit bullshit.

Take for example:

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May 20, 2032 FTL Travel made possible

Weyland scientists discover the inverse relationship between velocity and the flow of time making the long sought-after concept of faster than light travel a reality. The search for practical application begins.

July 4, 2033 Ballistic Development

Weyland creates new 5.56 millimeter round made of metals mined from the circumstellar habitable zone planets orbiting within Gliese 581 capable of traveling at max velocity in any atmosphere at any range.

January 17, 2034 Heliades

Weyland Industries introduces the first FTL-capable SEV (space exploration vehicle).

Well, Gliese 581 is 20 odd light years away, and they were mining metals from it without the use of FTL? Did they send up a ship in Queen Victoria's reign or something?

(And the inverse relationship between velocity and the flow of time was discovered by Einstein, with the opposite result.)

Other stuff:

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June 1, 2022 Cure for the Common Cancer

Scientists from the Health Division identify the genetic chain of events for 98% of cancers. Using genetically-altered cells as well as elements found beyond Earth’s heavens, Weyland successfully deploys an effective cure for almost all cancers.

Tough luck Amanda Ripley-MacClaren.

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May 14, 2039 Discovery of Archeron LV-426

Weyland astronomers discover multiple moons and a ringed planet just outside the Zeta 2 Reticula System, which are possibly able to support life. Weyland expects to travel there within the century.

So what's keeping them? By this point they're already terraforming planets 20 light years out. Zeta Reticuli is well within their exploration range if it's that exciting a destination.

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August 18, 2042 Establishment of HD 85512 b

Weyland Industries awarded government contract to build and maintain HD 85512 b Class E Correctional Unit. Prisoners from Earth and other facilities are successfully relocated, and many have since been rehabilitated into society.

Not Fiorina 161, then, unless the Sulaco was taking an extremely scenic route back.

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January 29, 2056 Power Loader Patented

Weyland Industries earns patent number 15,725,924 for Method and Apparatus for a mechanised exo-skeleton used for lifting and moving heavy objects such as crates and vehicle weaponry.

Interesting to note that while bother Caterpillar and Hyperdyne are two of the non-WY companies referenced in Aliens (although YMMV regarding Hyperdyne), they're both producing products associated with Weyland patents.

Clearly this de-canonises AliensWink

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July 22, 2059 Portable Decontamination Pack

Weyland introduces unique expedition security apparatus able to decontaminate indoor and outdoor environments. Apparatus mines surrounding air for flammable compounds, making it ultra light-weight as well as self-replenishing.

Curiously unmentioned in any of the Alien films, despite how useful it would be.

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June 23, 2065 S.P.W. Memorial Library

Sir Peter Weyland Memorial Library built in Washington, DC.

So if Pearce is in Prometheus, he's a droid, a flashback, a memory construct, a clone... but he's not playing the original Weyland.

Unless he's been really well preserved and the Synapse Reestablisher in 2071 is used to occasionally restart his brain (very Philip K Dick there!).

Actually, that sounds a lot like Scott's original ideas regarding Tyrrell in Blade Runner.

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November 20, 2065 Transplanetary Peacekeeping

As Weyland Industries expands their terraforming activities and colonial endeavors, the company is approached by the US government to begin work on the formation of a colonial peacekeeping force trained or populated by marines in the event of future conflict.

 Huh WTF  Huh

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April 7, 2066 David Joins the Workforce

As production costs for the David series decreases, Weyland Industries is increasingly able to extend those savings to everyday consumers, leading to remarkable proliferation of the product.

Similarly,  Huh WTF  Huh

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March 9, 2072 Weyland Reorganizes

Weyland Industries consolidates all products and solutions into seven verticals: health, transportation, energy, electronics, terraforming, security and cybernetics.

Brewery operations presumably start later than this!
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2012, 06:51:08 AM »

That decontamination unit sounds like it may be an attempt to explain the high capacity of the flamethrowers in Alien and Aliens, despite their small reservoirs - they're mining their environments for fuel.  Alternately, it could be a reference to some nifty device in Prometheus itself.
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2012, 09:05:45 AM »

Think it must be a reference to Prometheus. They have to refuel the flamethrowers in Alien.
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2012, 12:21:29 PM »

As for Caterpillar and Hyperdyne...I have always thought of Weyland-Yutani as a GE kind of deal. They probably also own Reebok.
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2012, 01:03:43 PM »

But it does beg the question as to why they brand certain things like beer, trikes, and flight recorders with the WY logo, and not others (like powerloaders or droids) that they might own.
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 01:30:42 PM »

Me thinks i will wait till i see the movie before i toss out the timeline of AVP. Cause the prometheus movie may not show all that stuff.
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 07:31:07 PM »

What's that?

De-canonising the AvP movies.
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 07:59:50 PM »

Well, we managed it in 2011, but we didn't have a child genius working on it to propel us 7 years ahead of the curve.

What's that?

My thoughts on the timeline

It's a bit bullshit.

Take for example:

Well, Gliese 581 is 20 odd light years away, and they were mining metals from it without the use of FTL? Did they send up a ship in Queen Victoria's reign or something?

(And the inverse relationship between velocity and the flow of time was discovered by Einstein, with the opposite result.)

Other stuff:

Tough luck Amanda Ripley-MacClaren.

So what's keeping them? By this point they're already terraforming planets 20 light years out. Zeta Reticuli is well within their exploration range if it's that exciting a destination.

Not Fiorina 161, then, unless the Sulaco was taking an extremely scenic route back.

Interesting to note that while bother Caterpillar and Hyperdyne are two of the non-WY companies referenced in Aliens (although YMMV regarding Hyperdyne), they're both producing products associated with Weyland patents.

Clearly this de-canonises AliensWink

Curiously unmentioned in any of the Alien films, despite how useful it would be.

So if Pearce is in Prometheus, he's a droid, a flashback, a memory construct, a clone... but he's not playing the original Weyland.

Unless he's been really well preserved and the Synapse Reestablisher in 2071 is used to occasionally restart his brain (very Philip K Dick there!).

Actually, that sounds a lot like Scott's original ideas regarding Tyrrell in Blade Runner.

 Huh WTF  Huh

Similarly,  Huh WTF  Huh

Brewery operations presumably start later than this!

A lot of this is what I was referring to in the other thread when I said they were trying to cram too much into the history and the Company controlling practically everything.  And that finding FTL, mining Gliese 581 the next year stuck out like dogs balls too.

The mis-spelling of Reticuli and Acheron was sloppy too.

And what is 'common' cancer?
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 05:11:47 AM »

The kind that don't de-canonise Aliens' two cancer references?  Wink

De-canonising the AvP movies.

How, though?

We've got Weyland Industries, a company that has only ever appeared in the AVP films, building an atmosphere processor in the polar region in 2015, giving them 11 years to reverse engineer any technology they may have scavenged from AVP's leftovers at the pole. We've got AVP's 'Godfather of Robotics,' and now we've got Prometheus' father of robotics. Those are pretty strong links if you're looking for links between the films.
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Re: Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 05:24:04 AM »

Why you give me heartburn? Pete founded Weyland Industries. Chuck never existed.
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 06:23:14 AM »

Pretty strange for a timeline not to reference the founding of Weyland Industries. Pretty strange for all the logos to be Weyland Corp, without any mention of the name change in the timeline.

And really strange for Weyland Industry to complete an extremely expensive space engineering project in 2015, months before the initial round of investment capital is received. So when were WI formed? With what money?

I think the site's trying to have its cake and eat it, linking up all the films (including AVP) with dodgy references.



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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2012, 06:41:08 AM »

My chest... it burns. I need Gaviscon.

The About Us section specifically mentions Pete being the founder of Weyland Industires.  Wink

According to Google, the most common cancers are Breast, Prostate and Lung cancer. Forgive my ignorance, but I can't remember what Amanda Ripley McClaren died from.

Could it be that the treatment is far too expensive?
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 07:02:59 AM »

Forgive my ignorance, but I can't remember what Amanda Ripley McClaren died from.

I'd raised an eyebrow at this as well, unless it was in a novelisation (or script), nothing verbal was mentioned about Amanda dying from cancer in Aliens SE, just that she died aged 66, no children. Double checked on the AVP wiki site, nothing there about cause of death either: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Amanda_Ripley-McClaren

The only cancer reference I know of was Hudson to Apone and even then that dialogue said nothing about cures (or lack of), so nothing is contradicted. After all, a lot of STDs nowadays are curable with simple antibiotics, but you still don't even want to get chlamydia do you?
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