Weyland Timeline Updated - First three Alien films referenced, AvPs gooooone!

[deezelboy]

Agree about the Apone reference - I don't think it contradicts anything, but it seems a bit sloppy. Why bother saying that Weyland has had a cure for 'common cancer' at all for around 150 years by the time of Aliens? Other than to make Pete look way cool, that is.

The novelisation, as I recall, simply mentions that Amanda has died of cancer, not any specific type.

The About Us section specifically mentions Pete being the founder of Weyland Industires. 

Does it? it's pretty ambiguous:

50 years ago our founder Sir Peter Weyland set out to change the world. Now, the company he created so many years ago works tirelessly with the same unlimited ambition to improve the world he changed.

Which is 'the company' - Weyland Industries or Weyland Corp?

And why say he set out to change the world 50 years ago, when according to the timeline 58 years ago he and Weyland Industries gave the world another renewable energy source and 57 years ago saved it from global warming. Those are two pretty big 'changing the world' things he'd accomplished by then.

Still think the site was supposed to be Weyland Corp, but they had to change it to Industries because somebody was domain squatting. But the whole Corp/Industry and date of its creation is way too ambiguous.

As is that polar reference!

[Necronom IV]

Which is 'the company' - Weyland Industries or Weyland Corp?

And why say he set out to change the world 50 years ago, when according to the timeline 58 years ago he and Weyland Industries gave the world another renewable energy source and 57 years ago saved it from global warming. Those are two pretty big 'changing the world' things he'd accomplished by then.

Still think the site was supposed to be Weyland Corp, but they had to change it to Industries because somebody was domain squatting. But the whole Corp/Industry and date of its creation is way too ambiguous.

As is that polar reference!

Well if we use Virgin as a comparison yet again, maybe both are functional aspects of the company. The overall company can presumably be Weyland Corp, and Weyland Industries could simply be the engineering subsidiary of the company, much like Virgin Group Ltd is the official parent company name, with subsidiaries of Virgin Airlines, Virgin Drinks, Virgin Games, Virgin Mobile, Virgin Oceanic etc.

As I mentioned in another thread and as you've brought up again, it might all be a simple case of domain name issues thanks to whoever the hell Skyrocket Media are and a webmaster who's being careless with the written facts, but this I feel is a fair explanation for the difference in company names.

[deezelboy]

I'm ok with there being a Corp and an Industry. The timeline even talks about rearranging various WI activities into seven verticals, so you'd have Weyland Terraforming and Weyland Health, for example, all under the Weyland Corp (or Industry) umbrella.

It's more using WI, as it's strictly an AVP reference. They could have called it anything if Weyland Corp wasn't being domain squatted - Weyland Dynamics, Weyland Amalgamated, or simply just Weyland. Anything but WI!

It's a bit like (to use SM's example) News International. Now that's founded by Rupert Murdoch. But News Limited was founded by his father. Rupert made News Limited what it was, and then founded News International as a holding company for it and other assets. I can't see anything that unambiguously states that Prometheus's Weyland Industry isn't the same one as AvP's, and that something similar to the Murdoch companies hasn't happened here.

[darthmaul1]

What about Weyland Yutanti? which is in the first Alien movie, and aliens
IMO unless it's actually stated or shown in the prometheus movie, i will not be regarding this as the timeline

[beckmen]

Yeah, but time is linear you piece of Sith. 

[Necronom IV]

What about Weyland Yutanti? which is in the first Alien movie, and aliens
IMO unless it's actually stated or shown in the prometheus movie, i will not be regarding this as the timeline

I don't really understand your point. Alien takes place in 2122, Aliens and Alien3 in 2179. Prometheus seems to take place in 2073 if the end of that timeline refers to the film's chronological setting, offering nearly 50 further years of as-yet unrecorded fictional business history of the Weyland and Yutani Corporations to merge.

Sure I agree with your notion that this is not necessarily canon information any more than a novelisation, licensed publication or script is in regards to the established film-series (in that it's what's on-screen that matters), but the fact that Yutani isn't acknowledged anywhere there doesn't contradict anything.

[darthmaul1]

I don't really understand your point. Alien takes place in 2122, Aliens and Alien3 in 2179. Prometheus seems to take place in 2073 if the end of that timeline refers to the film's chronological setting, offering nearly 50 further years of as-yet unrecorded fictional business history of the Weyland and Yutani Corporations to merge.

Sure I agree with your notion that this is not necessarily canon information any more than a novelisation, licensed publication or script is in regards to the established film-series (in that it's what's on-screen that matters), but the fact that Yutani isn't acknowledged anywhere there doesn't contradict anything.

I was just wondering if the Yutani part was mentioned yet in this timeline.
I do agree with you that since there is a 50 year gap in time then there is lots of time for the 2 to merge.

but as i said unless it's actually shown in the movie, that some form weyland was never around in 2004 (avp) then to me AVP could still be valid. for me AVP-R the only redemable feture of it besides the actual pred and alien part. was the yutani thing at the end.

[SM]

DECEMBER 12TH, 2029 - WEYLAND WINS PATENT SUIT
After years of litigation, Weyland wins the David patent lawsuit against the Japanese start-up Yutani Corporation, effectively protecting the investments of both Weyland Industries and its shareholders.

I'll wait till the films out and able to be properly analysed to work out how to include all this stuff.

I'm thinking it'll have it's own 'Weyland Corporate Timeline' page.

[Company Man]

Didn't bother to quote, but about the "cure for cancer", just because you have a cure does not mean everyone can afford it, or have it. I think.

[deezelboy]

That's true. But 150 years after the cure's been discovered, you'd expect there to be some quite massive advances in both curing the 'uncommon' cancers and reducing the cost of the cure. There's a big market for a cancer cure out there.

[dude]

Well, no doubt new strains would evolve too.

[Company Man]

Likely just a cover story for " The Company " had her killed...

[darthmaul1]

That's true. But 150 years after the cure's been discovered, you'd expect there to be some quite massive advances in both curing the 'uncommon' cancers and reducing the cost of the cure. There's a big market for a cancer cure out there.

Maybe the cure for cancer is easy and cheap to come by, that is why in Alien and Aliens people are still smoking cause there is an easy cure??

[deezelboy]

Maybe, although Alan Dean Foster went into great detail about his non-carcinogenic cigarettes in the novelisations.

[Hieronymus]

Since this topic has been resurrected, I'll throw in my two bits.  We're actually not that far from practical use of stem cells to construct synthetic tissues using biomaterial scaffolds or even decellularized cadaveric extracellular matrix.  An artificial trachea in 2004 would be, in my opinion, only about 15-20 years ahead of its time.

Also, if HD 85512 b is supposed to be Fiorina 161, it's both too large and too hot.  Someone needs to brush up on their wiki skills before making timelines.